Comment On It Happens

I guess I know where I'm taking my next business trip.

You can play WoW for more than 168 hours in a week?

That reminds me of the Dilbert where the PHB tells Alice she has to work 172 hours per week. She replies that there are only 168 hours in a week. He tells her that her family should be chipping in a few hours here and there.

The room doesn't actually cost $999,999 for a four night stay. They're just factoring in the cost of driving to the hotel from Jupiter.

On the fourth night at the Sheraton, my true love gave to me... 999,999 $1 handjobs.

If you're capable of staying 4 nights in a row, you own the place

Rehevkor:

The room doesn't actually cost $999,999 for a four night stay. They're just factoring in the cost of driving to the hotel from Jupiter.

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit.

Jupiter is a minimum of 365 million miles from the earth. If you were to drive a Prius @ 50 miles per gallon, it would still take you 7.3 million gallons, or a cool $29.2 million (@ $4/Gal.), give or take.

Let's assume that a Prius, properly cared for, lasts 200,000 miles. It would take you 1,825 Priuses to make the trip. Assuming a modest volume discount, we can put the price per Prius at $20,500, or a total of just under $37.5 million.

We'll ignore tax, license, insurance, and maintenance, and arrive at a total of $66.7 million (17.45 euros at the current rate).

So that room's a steal, if it includes the cost of driving.

You got a discount for bulk purchasing.

the $9999 error comes from trying to find the minimum price for something in a loop, assuming you'll get at least one result and that nothing will ever be higher than the random number (in this case 9999) that you've come up with for "infinity".

People do this because of the idea that it's "faster" than checking in every iteration of the loop to see if the minimum value has ever been defined.

I think I'll risk losing that extra performance in favor of code that makes sense

Rehevkor:

The room doesn't

We'll ignore tax, license, insurance, and maintenance, and arrive at a total of $66.7 million (17.45 euros at the current rate).

Wow...17.45 euros = $66.7 million? I knew the value of the dollar was dropping, but that sucks.

:)

Bappi:

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit.

quite,

In space you will only need to accelerate to your desired speed, then the whole Newtonian thing will get you most of the rest of the way, occasionally correcting for any other gravitational pulls along the way etc

Why would it take so much gas without wind resistance, etc? I think you're talking out of your ass.
Meanwhile, reaching escape velocity is going to be the most costly part of this, and I certainly don't get 50mi/gal driving up hill the whole way.
Bonus points for calculating for the time constraints (is it safe to assume that it's December of /this/ year?)

dysmas:

In space you will only need to accelerate to your desired speed, then the whole Newtonian thing will get you most of the rest of the way, occasionally correcting for any other gravitational pulls along the way etc

Don't forget about *de*celeration at the end. I'd much rather it be done with retros, parachutes, etc., than the mass of the destination planet.

Just put it in reverse.

Doesn't Ash have some Pokemon to be catching, or something?

akatherder:

You can play WoW for more than 168 hours in a week?

Look again. "Ash" played WoW for a week but he switched to some other game called _World of Wacraft_ for the remainder of his infinite time.

DaveAronson:

dysmas:

In space you will only need to accelerate to your desired speed, then the whole Newtonian thing will get you most of the rest of the way, occasionally correcting for any other gravitational pulls along the way etc

Don't forget about *de*celeration at the end. I'd much rather it be done with retros, parachutes, etc., than the mass of the destination planet.

You guys REALLY need to get laid. As a sidenote, getting laid whilst travelling to Jupiter would be really cool.

That subform-wizard-thing bugs me every time I have to use Access. One of the countless reasons not to use it.

Always online. Quite.

Not just now, but in the past. Before the big bang there was Ash. Playing WoW with God.

It would be the first night that would be amazing since you will arrive one day before the other offers start as you can see when looking at the dates. :P

And die first one is a common fake, created to piss off idiotic gamers.

Try Ash...She seems to be playing all the time. May be you can ask here to play with your thing!

spammy:

Just put it in reverse.

It's a Prius - it's got regenerative braking.

[I wouldn't normally quote the captcha, but some puns are worth it]
Captcha: genitus - a smart prick

dysmas:

quite,

In space you will only need to accelerate to your desired speed, then the whole Newtonian thing will get you most of the rest of the way, occasionally correcting for any other gravitational pulls along the way etc

To get from Jupiter orbit to Earth orbit, you'll need to accelerate from 29k mph to 67k mph, I don't think the prius is going to be able to handle that.

SuperousOxide:

dysmas:

quite,

In space you will only need to accelerate to your desired speed, then the whole Newtonian thing will get you most of the rest of the way, occasionally correcting for any other gravitational pulls along the way etc

To get from Jupiter orbit to Earth orbit, you'll need to accelerate from 29k mph to 67k mph, I don't think the prius is going to be able to handle that.

You don't have one, do you?

Bappi:

Rehevkor:

The room doesn't actually cost $999,999 for a four night stay. They're just factoring in the cost of driving to the hotel from Jupiter.

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit.

Jupiter is a minimum of 365 million miles from the earth. If you were to drive a Prius @ 50 miles per gallon, it would still take you 7.3 million gallons, or a cool $29.2 million (@ $4/Gal.), give or take.

Let's assume that a Prius, properly cared for, lasts 200,000 miles. It would take you 1,825 Priuses to make the trip. Assuming a modest volume discount, we can put the price per Prius at $20,500, or a total of just under $37.5 million.

We'll ignore tax, license, insurance, and maintenance, and arrive at a total of $66.7 million (17.45 euros at the current rate).

So that room's a steal, if it includes the cost of driving.

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit ;o)...

1. Cars don't work to well in space (lack of oxygen for engine, lack of wheel friction when in electric mode.)

2. $4 per gallon, that's nowt, try $9 per gallon in the UK :o(

3. The only way you'd ever get 50mpg out of a Prius _would_ be in space.

Cheers

Lardious

bumcheekcity:

DaveAronson:

dysmas:

In space you will only need to accelerate to your desired speed, then the whole Newtonian thing will get you most of the rest of the way, occasionally correcting for any other gravitational pulls along the way etc

Don't forget about *de*celeration at the end. I'd much rather it be done with retros, parachutes, etc., than the mass of the destination planet.

You guys REALLY need to get laid. As a sidenote, getting laid whilst travelling to Jupiter would be really cool.

Gives a whole new meaning to "I'm sorry Dave; I'm afraid I can't do that." What was *really* going on up there?

This reminds me of the following XKCD comic:

http://xkcd.com/189/

I don't want to sound like a smartass (yet I'm doing so, but ah well), but couldn't that SubForm Wizard window be resized horizontally to show the rest?

Bappi:

Rehevkor:

The room doesn't actually cost $999,999 for a four night stay. They're just factoring in the cost of driving to the hotel from Jupiter.

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit.

Jupiter is a minimum of 365 million miles from the earth. If you were to drive a Prius @ 50 miles per gallon, it would still take you 7.3 million gallons, or a cool $29.2 million (@ $4/Gal.), give or take.

Let's assume that a Prius, properly cared for, lasts 200,000 miles. It would take you 1,825 Priuses to make the trip. Assuming a modest volume discount, we can put the price per Prius at $20,500, or a total of just under $37.5 million.

We'll ignore tax, license, insurance, and maintenance, and arrive at a total of $66.7 million (17.45 euros at the current rate).

So that room's a steal, if it includes the cost of driving.

OK, the dollar lost quite some value, but 66.7 mio still correspond to a mere 54.4 mio euros.

DaveAronson:

dysmas:

In space you will only need to accelerate to your desired speed, then the whole Newtonian thing will get you most of the rest of the way, occasionally correcting for any other gravitational pulls along the way etc

Don't forget about *de*celeration at the end. I'd much rather it be done with retros, parachutes, etc., than the mass of the destination planet.

Not to be too pedantic, but don't parachutes transfer your momentum to the planet's mass, ultimately ?

Bappi:

Rehevkor:

The room doesn't actually cost $999,999 for a four night stay. They're just factoring in the cost of driving to the hotel from Jupiter.

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit.

Jupiter is a minimum of 365 million miles from the earth. If you were to drive a Prius @ 50 miles per gallon, it would still take you 7.3 million gallons, or a cool $29.2 million (@ $4/Gal.), give or take.

Let's assume that a Prius, properly cared for, lasts 200,000 miles. It would take you 1,825 Priuses to make the trip. Assuming a modest volume discount, we can put the price per Prius at $20,500, or a total of just under $37.5 million.

We'll ignore tax, license, insurance, and maintenance, and arrive at a total of $66.7 million (17.45 euros at the current rate).

So that room's a steal, if it includes the cost of driving.

First, thanks for the doing the math. I know I can always count someone else to jump on that if I ignore it. Math geeks can't resist a good setup.

Second, this is all moot given that you can't drive to or from Jupiter. Your numbers mean nothing! *evil cackle*

Vincent:

I don't want to sound like a smartass (yet I'm doing so, but ah well), but couldn't that SubForm Wizard window be resized horizontally to show the rest?

[Admit it, you expected this...]

A surprisingly large number of applications don't allow resizing of this style of form. Some then helpfully disallow editing on the text boxes as well, so you can't even scroll or copy the text. It's either that, or I'm too stingy to pay money for grown-up software.

TRWTF (at least in Delphi, so far as I recall it) is that both behaviours are not the defaults - the developer must have actually made the decision to be a bonehead, possibly twice.

Sheesh, you people...

Lardious:

1. Cars don't work to well in space (lack of oxygen for engine, lack of wheel friction when in electric mode.)

Obviously, there are some hidden assumptions: foremost, that there's a highway from Jupiter to the local Sheraton. Preferably in a pressurized tube. I'm amazed I even have to point this out.

Lardious:

2. $4 per gallon, that's nowt, try $9 per gallon in the UK :o(

You didn't think this argument through, did you? Obviously, you'll buy your gas from an American gas station, as god intended. Besides, even if you would take the detour to the UK, just because you're a glutton for expensive gas, that would only strengthen my argument (which, I will graciously remind you, was that the hotel room was a steal if it included driving costs).

Lardious:

3. The only way you'd ever get 50mpg out of a Prius _would_ be in space.

Apparently, it's not impossible to get 100mpg out of a Prius. And again, if your mileage is worse than 50, that only strengthens my argument.

SuperousOxide:

dysmas:

quite,

In space you will only need to accelerate to your desired speed, then the whole Newtonian thing will get you most of the rest of the way, occasionally correcting for any other gravitational pulls along the way etc

To get from Jupiter orbit to Earth orbit, you'll need to accelerate from 29k mph to 67k mph, I don't think the prius is going to be able to handle that.

It takes 27,000 km/h (or some 17,000 mph) to exit Earth's orbit. With a three times higher gravitation (at it's surface as compared to earth) we may assume some 81,000 km/h (or some 50,000 mph) needed to be able to leave Jupiter's orbit.

SuperousOxide:

dysmas:

quite,

In space you will only need to accelerate to your desired speed, then the whole Newtonian thing will get you most of the rest of the way, occasionally correcting for any other gravitational pulls along the way etc

To get from Jupiter orbit to Earth orbit, you'll need to accelerate from 29k mph to 67k mph, I don't think the prius is going to be able to handle that.

It would if you slapped a Hemi under the hood!

Bappi:

Rehevkor:

The room doesn't actually cost $999,999 for a four night stay. They're just factoring in the cost of driving to the hotel from Jupiter.

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit.

Jupiter is a minimum of 365 million miles from the earth. If you were to drive a Prius @ 50 miles per gallon, it would still take you 7.3 million gallons, or a cool $29.2 million (@ $4/Gal.), give or take.

Let's assume that a Prius, properly cared for, lasts 200,000 miles. It would take you 1,825 Priuses to make the trip. Assuming a modest volume discount, we can put the price per Prius at $20,500, or a total of just under $37.5 million.

We'll ignore tax, license, insurance, and maintenance, and arrive at a total of $66.7 million (17.45 euros at the current rate).

So that room's a steal, if it includes the cost of driving.

Neglecting previous observations on how a Prius would function poorly in space, and assuming an unlimited number of Prius.. uh.. Priusses... Prii? (and drivers for that matter - we could assume a male & female couple start off and effects of inbreeding are ignored) and the current driver obeyed speed limits of 55 Mph, it would take ~757 years to drive the distance.

Given inflation, I'd wager that the room may be prohibitively expensive by the time they got there.
(but frankly Im too lazy to do any more math today.) The guest should invest their room deposit in something with a high yield. :)

Rehevkor:

The room doesn't actually cost $999,999 for a four night stay. They're just factoring in the cost of driving to the hotel from Jupiter.

I know gas got more expensive on the other side of the pond, but why would you pay so much for a trip starting in a town in Florida?

Bappi:

Sheesh, you people...

Lardious:

1. Cars don't work to well in space (lack of oxygen for engine, lack of wheel friction when in electric mode.)

Obviously, there are some hidden assumptions: foremost, that there's a highway from Jupiter to the local Sheraton. Preferably in a pressurized tube. I'm amazed I even have to point this out.

Ah indeed, I had forgotten the new Matlock Express Way, doh!

Bappi:

Lardious:

2. $4 per gallon, that's nowt, try $9 per gallon in the UK :o(

You didn't think this argument through, did you? Obviously, you'll buy your gas from an American gas station, as god intended. Besides, even if you would take the detour to the UK, just because you're a glutton for expensive gas, that would only strengthen my argument (which, I will graciously remind you, was that the hotel room was a steal if it included driving costs).

The whole point is somewhat moot unless your petrol tank is somewhat larger than the norm...mind you it is weightless up there, so there's only the inertia to worry about, could be on to something here....

Bappi:

Lardious:

3. The only way you'd ever get 50mpg out of a Prius _would_ be in space.

Apparently, it's not impossible to get 100mpg out of a Prius. And again, if your mileage is worse than 50, that only strengthens my argument.

It is not, technically speaking, impossible to get gold sovereigns out of my arse; it's just rather unlikely. 100mpg+?? - only in freefall ;o)

tezoatlipoca:

Neglecting previous observations on how a Prius would function poorly in space, and assuming an unlimited number of Prius.. uh.. Priusses... Prii? (and drivers for that matter - we could assume a male & female couple start off and effects of inbreeding are ignored) and the current driver obeyed speed limits of 55 Mph, it would take ~757 years to drive the distance.

Considering it has a top speed of 106 Mph, even ignoring the speed limit the journey is still going to take almost 400 years.

ClaudeSuck.de:

It takes 27,000 km/h (or some 17,000 mph) to exit Earth's orbit. With a three times higher gravitation (at it's surface as compared to earth) we may assume some 81,000 km/h (or some 50,000 mph) needed to be able to leave Jupiter's orbit.

Only if you insist on getting all of that speed at once. You can actually saunter quite leisurely away from the planet, well under "escape velocity," if you can boost continuously.

The really frustrating thing is that, during interplanetary travel between similarly massing planets, you would get the gravitational pull at the end, right when you want to slow down. If only there was a way to somehow store that up and use it again when you're ready to leave. Actually, isn't that pretty much what a Prius does? Hmm... Japanese space flight prototype exposed!

TRWTF is that Windows' classic ListBox component does not support horizontal scroll bars at all. You'd have to use a ListView component if you want to have horizontal scroll bars, which needs "a bit" more initialization code to look exactly like a classic ListBox.

Speaking of WoW, they need to hurry up with the 2.4.3 patch. I've got some l00bs that I want to get mounts for.

So, Blizz devs - if any of you read here then I have two things to add.

1) Get 2.4.3 off the PTR and into production! I want those lvl 30 mounts!

2) Priests need improved mana efficiency. Stop vamping locks and throw some sweet blue lovin' our way for a change!

That is all.

Lardious:

The whole point is somewhat moot unless your petrol tank is somewhat larger than the norm...mind you it is weightless up there, so there's only the inertia to worry about, could be on to something here....

Since we're assuming a highway in a pressurized tube anyway, we can just as well assume gas stations along the way.

And if you have Canadians in the car, a string of Tim Hortons, spaced no more than 5 miles apart.

When the clock goes back 1 hour at the end of DST there are 169 hours in the week. Conversely at the start of DST there are only 167.

Bappi:

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit.

No, the problem with the Internet is that when you make a joke some pedantic asshole with no sense of humor figures he needs to make a post explaining why it wouldn't be true. You know, like you just did.

Bappi:

Rehevkor:

The room doesn't actually cost $999,999 for a four night stay. They're just factoring in the cost of driving to the hotel from Jupiter.

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit.

Jupiter is a minimum of 365 million miles from the earth. If you were to drive a Prius @ 50 miles per gallon, it would still take you 7.3 million gallons, or a cool $29.2 million (@ $4/Gal.), give or take.

Let's assume that a Prius, properly cared for, lasts 200,000 miles. It would take you 1,825 Priuses to make the trip. Assuming a modest volume discount, we can put the price per Prius at $20,500, or a total of just under $37.5 million.

We'll ignore tax, license, insurance, and maintenance, and arrive at a total of $66.7 million (17.45 euros at the current rate).

So that room's a steal, if it includes the cost of driving.

Actually, once you're out of the atmosphere and a decent distance out of the gravity well, your MPGs go way up. Those are mostly highway miles too (you'd be insane to try to get all the way from Jupiter to here on back roads), and there's going to be a lot less wear and tear on the tires, engine, etc, in space, too.

SuperousOxide:

To get from Jupiter orbit to Earth orbit, you'll need to accelerate from 29k mph to 67k mph, I don't think the prius is going to be able to handle that.

You just add a spoiler to the rear and everything's fine.

The Windows GUI is one big WTF. No resizeable dialogs and no layout managers! Everyone else (NeXT and therefore OS X, gtk+, Qt, Java, ...) got layout managers, why not Microsoft? And to fit the dialogs onto a 640x480 screen they are tiny. Under Linux a big, not reizeable dialog, which is bigger than the screen might be ugly, but because you can pan every window per Alt+Left Mouse this is no problem at all. Microsoft, enter the 21st century already!

Bappi:

Rehevkor:

The room doesn't actually cost $999,999 for a four night stay. They're just factoring in the cost of driving to the hotel from Jupiter.

The problem with the Internet is that somebody will always take you up on your shit.

Jupiter is a minimum of 365 million miles from the earth. If you were to drive a Prius

And I suppose that your shit that proposes one use an automobile to travel from Jupiter to Earth is unassailable?

SenTree:

TRWTF (at least in Delphi, so far as I recall it) is that both behaviours are not the defaults - the developer must have actually made the decision to be a bonehead, possibly twice.

Gaaah... I will *LOVE* to do that. But is bad idea, as giving too much freedom to users may results on unespected results. So I make apps how users expect then to work, not how I want then to work. IMHO, all apps sould have a console and a internal scripting lang.. but users want listbox, and things, to click, click, click, click... :I

Admittedly, I haven't read all of the comments (I do have to do some work today after all).

But am I the only one who's bothered by the fact that $999,999 isn't the cost for the fourth night? (Hint: It's the cost for Nov 27, on a 4-night stay that begins on Nov. 27. Anyone want to do the math for me?)